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I have been reading around about wether or not to just stir the yeast in to your wort or let sit on top 10 minutes then stir in. I used to do it by using warm water and sugar to get it started then dump in an stir a little bit. Can you let me know the best way to insure a proper fermentaion in my kit. I plan on using the yeast that came with the kit as he told me too.
Thanks Dave
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2011, 05:43:43 AM » |
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Dave, this is a article by Brad Smith, creator of BeerSmith 1&2. He also has monthly internet video's and articles. Check out Amazon.com Kindle for PC. It's free. A lot of good home brewing books are available for instant download, some for less than $5 on the Amazon Kindle Store. Check out the my post on my homebrewing library.
Making a Yeast Starter for your Beer The quality of your homebrew can be dramatically improved by making a yeast starter. Home brewers often toss a packet or vial of yeast into their beer without much thought to the quantity needed. Though modern liquid brewer’s yeast smack packs and vials are a huge improvement over older dry yeast packs, these packages do not contain enough yeast cells for optimal pitching. Underpitching results in slower startup, higher risk of infection, off flavors and sometimes incomplete fermentation.
How Much Yeast is Enough?
In general, lagers require a larger starter than ales. George Fix’s book “An Analysis of Brewing Techniques” recommends pitching rates of 0.75 mllion cells an ale and 1.5 million cells for lager. The number is measures in million of cells per milliliter per degree plato. Converting to homebrew units, his ale figure translates to 4 billion cells per point of original gravity per 5 gallon batch (1.048 original gravity would be 48 points or 192 billion cells). For a 5 gallon homebrew, lets use the figure of 192 billion cells.
An average White Labs yeast vial contains around 100 billion cells of active yeast. Therefore without a starter, you would need two yeast vials to reach optimal pitching for our 5 gallon example. The large Wyeast activator packs contain around 100 billion cells as well, so again you would need two packs. The smaller smack packs contain only 15-18 billion active cells, so you would need 11 for the same 5 gallon batch. (Ref: MrMalty). Keep in mind you would need to double the above figures for a lager.
Fortunately, creating a starter is an excellent alternative to purchasing large quantities of yeast. Research varies, but a starter of 1 liter will yield approx 150 billion cells and a two liter starter will yield from 200-240 billion cells. So a 1.5-2 liter starter is sufficient for an average 5 gallon batch.
For a 10 gallon batch, a 4 liter starter is appropriate (up to 400 billion cells yielded) but may require a two step starter (first a 1 liter starter, then transfer it to a 4 liter starter) if you are pitching less than 100 billion cells initially. (Ref: AHA Tech talk, 8/31/05)
Making the Starter
Creating a starter is very easy. You want to start 18-24 hours before your brewing session, so the yeast can reach an active state before pitching. If you are doing a two stage starter, allow 18-24 hours for each stage. I use a large pyrex flask, but a very clean pot is a suitable substitute of you can cool it quickly.
Dry malt extract is easy to store and use in small quantities. To determine the amount to add, you can create a mini-recipe in BeerSmith that is the size of your starter and adjust for a target gravity of around 1.040. Alternately, use this rule of thumb: between 3.5 and 4 ounces of extract per liter (or quart) will give you a good starter.
Dissolve the dry malt extract, boil it for 10-15 minutes to make sure it is sterile, and then cool it quickly in an ice bath and transfer it to a sanitized container. Once it reaches room temperature, pitch your yeast and seal the container with an airlock to prevent contamination.
Allow the starter to ferment between 18 and 24 hours. Pitch the entire contents of the starter into your batch of beer to get an active, robust start.
Pitching yeast at the proper rate will significantly reduce the lag before active fermentation begins, promote complete fermentation, reduce the risk of infection and improve the overall quality of your beer. The BeerSmith News I thank you for following the BeerSmith newsletter, and want you to know I'm still working hard on the next updates to BeerSmith which I hope to release in late 2010. I also have a home brewing book based on the BeerSmith blog that is in editing now. I hope to release it this fall via Amazon.
Yeast Listing BeerSmith has a complete yeast listing for the most popular suppliers including White Labs and Wyeast. You can also access our online yeast listing here if you need to reference them on the go! You can purchase Beer Yeasts from Homebrew Adventures , and they also carry flasks for making your yeast starters.
More Information on Yeasts? Read our article on Yeast and Home brewing which covers the fermentation process and how it works.
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2011, 06:13:50 AM » |
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A quick follow up - You do NOT want to use sugar for your yeast sarter! This will "train" the yeast to "look" for simple sugars to utilize. By useing Dry Malt Extract, the yeast will br trained to look for that type of complex sugar, yeilding a better yeast starter.
Also check out the other topics/ posts on here for making a yeast sarter.
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2011, 06:18:48 AM » |
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Cool.. Thanks I think I will make a starter on Monday moring and make the kit on Tuesday afternoon. My house stays from between 67 and 71 degrees. For some reason the thermostat always goes back down to 67. i am going to place the fermenter in the middle of the house to have the most stable tempurature.
Thanks Dave
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2011, 06:32:01 PM » |
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Excellant! I went the whole route with the starter flask as available from the store, picked up a "stir-plate" off Ebay. Saved a few bucks. DME seems to be the best starter medium, or saved liquid wort from previous batches. I see fermentation with in a few hours everytime! With the big beers I like to brew, a starter is a must!!
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2011, 06:51:16 AM » |
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You were right a starter does help. For that Wheat kit I used 1 cup LDM (Boiled 10 min) an 3/4 cup dextrose in and a few cups of water ( 3/4 of the jar) in a a mason jar. I let it go for 24 hours before pitching. I pitched the yeast into the beer around a quarter till two an it was jugging away around four thirty. I belive I always will use a starter from now on.
Don't you love that nice bread smell in the fermenting room....
Dave
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2011, 09:10:32 AM » |
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Good Job! Making a starter the night before is also good to verify the yeast is good before brewing a whole batch. I used to bake a lot of bread, it always reminded me of beer!
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